But is dual cab growing in a personal vehicle market, as opposed to a work vehicle market. (As per post above with Great Wall out selling Patrol - that would have to be because of businesses buying them surely)
New Nissan Pathfinder yay or nay?
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But is dual cab growing in a personal vehicle market, as opposed to a work vehicle market. (As per post above with Great Wall out selling Patrol - that would have to be because of businesses buying them surely)
Nissan already has the Dualis (and +2), Murano, Xtrail. Two of those are AWD. All come as 2WD. What market are they wanting a slice of they they don't already have a reasonable stake in?
The new Pathfinder is still being touted as a 4x4. (although it too comes in 2wd) but even you say if you want to take it off road its not the best car for that. So why bother with the 4x4 driveline, other than they are still trying to capitalise on the off-road name that Pathfinder has had for almost 20 years.
Nissan has declining sales for a long time. In the 4x4 market, Navaras have come in number 2 for 5 years, behind Hilux. But if we take the utes out of the picture, Prado has averaged 14000 sales each year, LCrusiers (exc pickups) around 9500 sales, compared to pathys at
2000, and Patrols at 3000. (Vfacts) Last year Patrol was outsold by Great Wall v200 (yes, a ute used for, but still....Great Wall????)
So far, this year to Sept the Patrol is at no 9 for wagons (My lovely little D4 is at No 10 BTW
One of the considerations I had when I sold my Pathy (albeit minor) was the announcement of the new Pathy. I wondered if it was possible that buyers seeing a R52 and considering it as soft, might by association paint the R51/50/W21 with the same brush. :noidea:
So after all that prattle, Nissan has a strong 4x4 history, but as Crackacoldie suggests, they have lost their way a bit. Killing off another real 4x4, delaying the diesel in the Y62, and GU so old in the tooth won't improve their reputation, IMHO
If you have driven the new Pathy you would know what you are talking about. Like the 2wd Kluger, 2wd Exy etc. If you want to tow anything more than a box trailer, try taking off in a hill in the wet. Trust me you wont. This is why they have AWD. If that is your theory then why does an Impreza have AWD. It is for grip, not an off road thing.
I planted my foot in the 2wd Pathy and is Melbourne it was the usual rain. It couldn't get power to the ground and the trac cont was constantly on. The 4wd had no issues.
You said it your self. Nissan has had a sales decline in the PAthy and Patrol. So why would they keep it going in a market where it isnt successful.
Nissan sales overall have not declined. The Exy and Dualis have a huge share of the compact SUV market, and with new Exy around the corner it should go even better. Dualis is a big seller for us.
D40 is as old as a boot, but still sits at number 2 and 3 each month. Still out sells the Ranger and BT50 that everyone pulls over...
Nissan sales are slowly increasing, just to a different part of the market.
That is correct, personal are buying dual cabs, but for business as well as the family car.
If business bought utes purely to use as business, why would you buy a dual cab, Useless tray and tub and load capacity compared to a single of even a king cab.
Dual cabs can be both. This is why.
We sell D40 to business mainly, but on the odd occasion a D40 goes to a private buyer. D22 seems to be the private buyer pick for a first ute to play in the mud..
What's peoples thoughts on the 2014 Mitsy Challenger???
http://www.mitsubishi-motors.com.au/vehicles/challenger
http://www.mitsubishi-motors.com.au/vehicles/challenger
As stated though, to me it is still trying to steal market share from Nissan, from the X trail and Murano. Taking market share from yourself is never good business.
I ll probs have a look at the challenger as a possible for a changeover in the next yr or two!!
3 t tow limit!!
3 t tow limit!!
@stuartcarr2002 I saw the convoy of new Nissans yesterday while sitting in my BT, I knew I was sitting in the seat I would rather be. And yes im biting my tongue as I hear the old BTfugly song again which honestly im over!
By the way doesnt nissan sat nav work because nissan have left all there signs along the highway for which way to go ?
By the way doesnt nissan sat nav work because nissan have left all there signs along the highway for which way to go
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The RAV4 now is the top selling small SUV with the new model, and the Kluger is always in the top 3...
No, cause in every group there is always some dope that gets lost and doesnt know convoy procedure...:der:@stuartcarr2002 I saw the convoy of new Nissans yesterday while sitting in my BT, I knew I was sitting in the seat I would rather be. And yes im biting my tongue as I hear the old BTfugly song again which honestly im over!
By the way doesnt nissan sat nav work because nissan have left all there signs along the highway for which way to go
Some good comments @stuartcarr2002 about why Nissan is doing it.
I understand it is about $$$, its interesting the comments you make about the ute market though as I nearly bought one myself.
But that said the deciding factor in a ute or 4wd for us was the 7 seat factor and the R51 provided this whilst giving us something that could tow and go off road.
But for us know it would definetly be a 4wd ute so I think the comments around people moving to utes is valid.
That said though if there was a similiar Pathy to the R51 available it would be a hard sell to get MrsExpanda to commit to a ute as she loves the 7 seater comfort.
But alas we are a dying market to Nissan so no more R51 for us!
Maybe you could persuade Nissan to bring the back 550 for us as one offs for a special price pretty please !!!!
I understand it is about $$$, its interesting the comments you make about the ute market though as I nearly bought one myself.
But that said the deciding factor in a ute or 4wd for us was the 7 seat factor and the R51 provided this whilst giving us something that could tow and go off road.
But for us know it would definetly be a 4wd ute so I think the comments around people moving to utes is valid.
That said though if there was a similiar Pathy to the R51 available it would be a hard sell to get MrsExpanda to commit to a ute as she loves the 7 seater comfort.
But alas we are a dying market to Nissan so no more R51 for us!
Maybe you could persuade Nissan to bring the back 550 for us as one offs for a special price
pretty please !!!!
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I do think it looks like a Kluger, but there is a new Kluger around the corner as well, more competition for the new footpathfinder.
Looks like one of the new Patrols has been washed in hot water and shrunk!!!