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Okay girls, now we have the chance to win a Mine Truck, a 70GXL Troopy, certainly be the Bee's Knees in my shed I can tell you .............. take me back to the 70's for sure driving the old bus..................... If your not interested and your have the codes in your carton PM me and I'll give you my address and some stamps to post them.

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Winning a Troopy is like a commoner becoming King only much much better, My Liege.
 
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Once again I followed advice, get a professional to design and supply your patio extension, I should have known better, well I did know better, it turned up today, so I check it all out, all the bits turned up, then I look closer at the thing and how it would fit to my place, once again it is proved that if I had double checked and not taken the word of somebody supposedly wiser than a dumb truckie I would have seen a glaring problem, the smooth flowing patio I envisioned wasn't to be, it would look like Grannies laundry lean-to or outside kitchen, I think I have said it before but this time is absolutely the last time I rely on bluddy experts, be it mechanics, armourers, legal beagles or electricians , thankfully I have had a very good look and worked out I have enough materials to change their junky design and get a nice looking flowing addition to my verandah.... ( the plans didn't show up the glaring problem) This dumb truckie has certainly has gutful of so called professionals be they spanner men, sparkies, plumbers or builders, lots of people must be getting ripped off with shoddy jobs and I think its all because they tap on a keyboard to get results and no experience of how or why.............

These people are just making me look good everyday, I have always said I can do anything and as I get older it surprisingly is actually the truth, but as I get older I'm starting to prefer others do it for me and it appears the bustards can't ..................... one good thing at 1300 this arvo I wanted to nail heads to a wall, now I have spoken nicely on phone and found they are stupid, re-evaluated, assesed and found I can make it work and look good, stuff council, stuff the manufacturers, I've sorted it out with 20mm to spare..................

Okay rant done, I may even post pics when I have it all done .................................. if you want to hear some good sailor speak ring me.... :D :D
 
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Once again I followed advice, get a professional to design and supply your patio extension, I should have known better, well I did know better, it turned up today, so I check it all out, all the bits turned up, then I look closer at the thing and how it would fit to my place, once again it is proved that if I had double checked and not taken the word of somebody supposedly wiser than a dumb truckie I would have seen a glaring problem, the smooth flowing patio I envisioned wasn't to be, it would look like Grannies laundry lean-to or outside kitchen, I think I have said it before but this time is absolutely the last time I rely on bluddy experts, be it machanics, armourers, legal beagles or electricians , thankfully I have had a very good look and worked out I have enough materials to change their junky design and get a nice looking flowing addition to my verandah.... ( the plans didn't shoe up the glaring problem) This dumb truckie has certainly has gutful of so called professionals be they spanner men, sparkies, plumbers or builders, lots of people must be getting ripped off with shoddy jobs and I think its all because they tap on a keyboard to get results and no experience of how or why.............

These people are just making me look good everyday, I have always said I can do anything and as I get older it surprisingly is actually the truth, but as I get older I'm starting to prefer others do it for me and it appears the bustards can't ..................... one good thing at 1300 this arvo I wanted to nail heads to a wall, now I have spoken nicely on phone and found they are stupid, re-evaluated, assesed and found I can make it work and look good, stuff council, stuff the manufacturers, I've sorted it out with 20mm to spare..................

Okay rant done, I may even post pics when I have it all done .................................. if you want to hear some good sailor speak ring me.... :D :D
I resemble those comments
 
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Drover ,got 6 new recon Bosch injectors ex Germany put in the 2010 WH diesel last week by diesel injection specialists !drove from Grafton to Yamba could smell a bit of diesel, got home a flood coming out of one of the return line connection orings they had nicked.Had to get a couple of new orings ,fitted myself ! Talk about useless ! I would have fitted the injectors myself but they had to be coded.
 

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Drover ,got 6 new recon Bosch injectors ex Germany put in the 2010 WH diesel last week by diesel injection specialists !drove from Grafton to Yamba could smell a bit of diesel, got home a flood coming out of one of the return line connection orings they had nicked.Had to get a couple of new orings ,fitted myself ! Talk about useless ! I would have fitted the injectors myself but they had to be coded.
You are right @BJM . No one (or few anyway) do as good a job as you yourself and to your own standard!!!
 

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Hi,
warning, rant following:

There is some confusion between lumping ALL well-trained, experienced, and dedicated professionals into the same basket as the many cowboys out there.
Many of the instances where there are problems are because untrained, inexperienced, or people not interested in doing a good job are purporting to be what they are not: well-trained, experienced, and dedicated.

I was in my industries for over 50 years and I feel insulted that in that time I could not develop skills that would enable me to do a better job than ANY laymen tackling the same work that I was doing.

There are too many cowboys out there pretending to be mechanics, painters, builders, etc etc.

Good qualified people do exist, but in large cities it is difficult to distinguish them from the cowboys, salespeople etc. Worse still, many organisations that specialise in popular services do not employ many tradesman or professionals

In generalising into a process where we think that anybody with a bit of common sense can easily do better than a trained professional we are ignoring some basic truths.
When you are sick, do you heal yourself and go do your own operations, cat scans, xrays, MRI, blood tests?
Who do you think designed the cars, the bridges, the aeroplanes, your mobile phone, your computer, and the millions of other items we use everyday: well-trained, experienced, and dedicated professionals or novices?

Yes, we all have stories where we trusted a cowboy to do something for us and were bitterly disappointed with the result. But, I can assure you, that I have had many, many, many more instances where I have benefited by having good people do work or provide products that I would have absolutely no way to do myself.

Perhaps the problem is that we have become less careful about checking the credentials of the people we engage and then whinge when we have chosen badly.

I would challenge ANY novice to do superior work to me in the fields I have worked in over the past 50 years. I am not alone in that regard and I have worked with many, many, people over the years that would take offense at the insinuations made in the general comments in some of the last few posts. By all means criticise the work done by a particular person or company for the job they did for you. But use that instance to insult every tradesperson or professional by suggesting that anyone with a bit of common sense can do better than the lot of them.

I can't drive a truck or a bus, and there is no way that I would jump behind the wheel of any of them and pretend that my 50 years experience in driving a car would be more than enough to take the wheel.

take care
Mike
 
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Yep and I have felt the scorn many a time myself as I classed myself as a Professional in a number of fields, in trucking I have been called a cowboy amongst others something I most certainly am not and in the military certain names which is most unacceptable, I might not have had years of Uni, Tafe but still I was always proud of a good job ........actually I have some TAFE under the belt............. I expect a reliable job to be done be it mechanical, financial, electrical or legal and sadly the standard is dropping bt the p[rice is increasing, I certainly praise when I get a good job/service but many seem to be just looking at something else. I have found financial advice to be misleading and incorrect, poor electrical fit out or plumbing work is pretty common and encountered it myself, I go to a shop I expect good service and product, if not I don't bother complaining, I often won't go back even to get something rectified but thats depending on the fault and certainly won't recommend...........

Don't get me started on car designers, I work on mine and I can tell you they have no idea some of their great ideas are impossible to repair without mnajor dismantle, thankful some smart maintainers work out a way............

You should have heard me roaring when the professional mechanic being in a hurry didn't tighten the wheels nuts, 4km from workshop 90 odd Kg of wheels and rims went bouncing down the road, luckily missed everyone, I didn't check nuts as it was an oil change but someone wanted to look at the airbag..........

I'm a damn good driver and hope I still have the abilities to pull a 50ft Coach or Semi back into line when they try to go sideways down the highway, oil slick best way to improve your puckering down below........o_Oo_Oo_O

All in all @mikerezny your view is quite correct I will have my rant but I will also apply praise when needed..................

@BJM I still have a bag of Merc fuel O rings from my WG in my tool box, just in case the Italian Stallion dribbles, should fit all Bosch.
 

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Yep and I have felt the scorn many a time myself as I classed myself as a Professional in a number of fields, in trucking I have been called a cowboy amongst others something I most certainly am not and in the military certain names which is most unacceptable, I might not have had years of Uni, Tafe but still I was always proud of a good job ........actually I have some TAFE under the belt............. I expect a reliable job to be done be it mechanical, financial, electrical or legal and sadly the standard is dropping bt the p[rice is increasing, I certainly praise when I get a good job/service but many seem to be just looking at something else. I have found financial advice to be misleading and incorrect, poor electrical fit out or plumbing work is pretty common and encountered it myself, I go to a shop I expect good service and product, if not I don't bother complaining, I often won't go back even to get something rectified but thats depending on the fault and certainly won't recommend...........

Don't get me started on car designers, I work on mine and I can tell you they have no idea some of their great ideas are impossible to repair without mnajor dismantle, thankful some smart maintainers work out a way............

You should have heard me roaring when the professional mechanic being in a hurry didn't tighten the wheels nuts, 4km from workshop 90 odd Kg of wheels and rims went bouncing down the road, luckily missed everyone, I didn't check nuts as it was an oil change but someone wanted to look at the airbag..........

I'm a damn good driver and hope I still have the abilities to pull a 50ft Coach or Semi back into line when they try to go sideways down the highway, oil slick best way to improve your puckering down below........o_Oo_Oo_O

All in all @mikerezny your view is quite correct I will have my rant but I will also apply praise when needed..................

@BJM I still have a bag of Merc fuel O rings from my WG in my tool box, just in case the Italian Stallion dribbles, should fit all Bosch.
Yep and I have felt the scorn many a time myself as I classed myself as a Professional in a number of fields, in trucking I have been called a cowboy amongst others something I most certainly am not and in the military certain names which is most unacceptable, I might not have had years of Uni, Tafe but still I was always proud of a good job ........actually I have some TAFE under the belt............. I expect a reliable job to be done be it mechanical, financial, electrical or legal and sadly the standard is dropping bt the p[rice is increasing, I certainly praise when I get a good job/service but many seem to be just looking at something else. I have found financial advice to be misleading and incorrect, poor electrical fit out or plumbing work is pretty common and encountered it myself, I go to a shop I expect good service and product, if not I don't bother complaining, I often won't go back even to get something rectified but thats depending on the fault and certainly won't recommend...........

Don't get me started on car designers, I work on mine and I can tell you they have no idea some of their great ideas are impossible to repair without mnajor dismantle, thankful some smart maintainers work out a way............

You should have heard me roaring when the professional mechanic being in a hurry didn't tighten the wheels nuts, 4km from workshop 90 odd Kg of wheels and rims went bouncing down the road, luckily missed everyone, I didn't check nuts as it was an oil change but someone wanted to look at the airbag..........

I'm a damn good driver and hope I still have the abilities to pull a 50ft Coach or Semi back into line when they try to go sideways down the highway, oil slick best way to improve your puckering down below........o_Oo_Oo_O

All in all @mikerezny your view is quite correct I will have my rant but I will also apply praise when needed..................

@BJM I still have a bag of Merc fuel O rings from my WG in my tool box, just in case the Italian Stallion dribbles, should fit all Bosch.
Had three parts numbers for these viton 4 mill od orings ,Bosch,Jeep,Merc ,idiot couldnt even get them for me,mind you $20.00 for one at some places,got the Merc numbered ones for $10.00ea.Ridiculous.
 
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Hell !!!! I got mine at Toowoomba Merc dealer for about 25c each, pretty green things they are...... I bought 6 so they certainly weren't up there in price.
 

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Hi,
warning, rant following:

There is some confusion between lumping ALL well-trained, experienced, and dedicated professionals into the same basket as the many cowboys out there.
Many of the instances where there are problems are because untrained, inexperienced, or people not interested in doing a good job are purporting to be what they are not: well-trained, experienced, and dedicated.

I was in my industries for over 50 years and I feel insulted that in that time I could not develop skills that would enable me to do a better job than ANY laymen tackling the same work that I was doing.

There are too many cowboys out there pretending to be mechanics, painters, builders, etc etc.

Good qualified people do exist, but in large cities it is difficult to distinguish them from the cowboys, salespeople etc. Worse still, many organisations that specialise in popular services do not employ many tradesman or professionals

In generalising into a process where we think that anybody with a bit of common sense can easily do better than a trained professional we are ignoring some basic truths.
When you are sick, do you heal yourself and go do your own operations, cat scans, xrays, MRI, blood tests?
Who do you think designed the cars, the bridges, the aeroplanes, your mobile phone, your computer, and the millions of other items we use everyday: well-trained, experienced, and dedicated professionals or novices?

Yes, we all have stories where we trusted a cowboy to do something for us and were bitterly disappointed with the result. But, I can assure you, that I have had many, many, many more instances where I have benefited by having good people do work or provide products that I would have absolutely no way to do myself.

Perhaps the problem is that we have become less careful about checking the credentials of the people we engage and then whinge when we have chosen badly.

I would challenge ANY novice to do superior work to me in the fields I have worked in over the past 50 years. I am not alone in that regard and I have worked with many, many, people over the years that would take offense at the insinuations made in the general comments in some of the last few posts. By all means criticise the work done by a particular person or company for the job they did for you. But use that instance to insult every tradesperson or professional by suggesting that anyone with a bit of common sense can do better than the lot of them.

I can't drive a truck or a bus, and there is no way that I would jump behind the wheel of any of them and pretend that my 50 years experience in driving a car would be more than enough to take the wheel.

take care
Mike
Sign of the times Mike. My industry in chocka block full of half job Harry's. Experience is no longer key, how many courses you've done is the measure now and its not whether youll be disappointed, but generally by how much. No-one wants to work, everyone wants their hand held and theyre looking to get away with as least as possible. They cant/wont think and they are better aquainted with how many sick days are owing and when best to use them than much else ... that's why I havent had staff for years, it's just not worth the drama. The last guy claimed hearing loss and got a $30k payout and a lovely set of hearing aids. Apparently he couldnt even use his mobile phone. His wife and mother in law went to England on my $30k, and he rings me regularly for a phone chat.
 

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how many courses you've done is the measure now
It came to pass some us got sent off to do these Cert I, II and III courses, even though we got paid to do them we all found them to be the biggest crock, those newbies came away with a flash ticket but we doubted any great knowledge or skills, simplistic set up and more like to get numbers thru the door .... These were mostly for transport and logistics, the instructors knew the theory but failed the practical in many respects.
 

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Sign of the times Mike. My industry in chocka block full of half job Harry's. Experience is no longer key, how many courses you've done is the measure now and its not whether youll be disappointed, but generally by how much. No-one wants to work, everyone wants their hand held and theyre looking to get away with as least as possible. They cant/wont think and they are better aquainted with how many sick days are owing and when best to use them than much else ... that's why I havent had staff for years, it's just not worth the drama. The last guy claimed hearing loss and got a $30k payout and a lovely set of hearing aids. Apparently he couldnt even use his mobile phone. His wife and mother in law went to England on my $30k, and he rings me regularly for a phone chat.
 

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Been there done that...... :p :p :p .... and I'm pleased to report that its all its cracked up to be..... :clap2::clap2: :couch2::car::cheer2:.. bluddy marvelous actually...... usually after 5 years at a job I start to get the feeling to move on so by 10 years had enough, not this one 8 years into it and still smiling, big grins and I don't care if no fish I can always go fishing tomorrow or whenever I damn well please, haven't worn a watch since 08OCT2013 but who's counting.......

I'm in QLD as well which no matter what they say is the place to be for retirement, hell I rarely wear shoes so gotta be great.........................
 

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I’m as deaf as a post from working in engine rooms with gensets screaming their head off, my old workmate called in yesterday he has the same problem he’s just turned 92 he recons he might some hearing aids eventually!! Neither of us could sue anyone because we worked for ourselves and didn’t get sick leave or holiday pay etc etc etc the old prick still drinks me under the table lol
 

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You know Folks, I'm going to let the cat out of the bag, a few phone calls for advice and he's "Seen The Light" and is going to get a Grand Cherokee as he reckons the Cruiser is a rough old girl and since he's getting old he needs some comfort ..................... :D :D :D
 
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