It would be a poor argument with me
@poor but proud something I actually don't know a lot about, I still have a Daiwa surf egg beater circa 1974 that is beaten, bashed and repaired, still working and a few other old egg beaters going strong, never could warrant the expense of an Alvey for the little use it would get while working, sort of like spending $80K on a van to use for 2 weeks a year,........ Now I can't be stuffed, the egg beaters still work.... But a full size 13ft solid beach rod is really the ants...
Just need some buddy fish.