Starcraft Starcraft 16.67-3 - family layout

[Moto Moto]

I see there is a couple of new Starcraft layouts and one caught my attention, the 16.67-3, pop-top.

Basically a 16 series (single axle) with double bed at the front, bunks and ensuite at the rear, kitchen and dinette in the middle. Its a lot to fit into a 16 series, but if van storage space is an issue, worth considering.

Also they are much cheaper being the Starcraft model.

Not much info out there, but the new 2013 Starcraft brochure on the Jayco website has the layout and specs. I have some photos a dealer sent me i will upload later.

No i haven't ordered one, will wait to see one in the flesh first, but thought it might suit others with small familes.

 

[Deano]

MM, that's a great layout. It's got everything you want. Look forward to seeing your pictures.
Cheers Deano

 

[expanda]

Its interesting but hanging out for internal shots !

 

[Moto Moto]

Hopefully this works, the photos are in pdf format.

I also have some photos of the 16.67-1 which has an extra bunk instead of the ensuite but shows the main bed and kitchen better.

 

[Moto Moto]

Here is the 16.67-1 photos, gives a better view of the front bed and kitchen.

 

[Bushman]

Keen to see this one myself, Our Dealer is expecting on next week for stock, hopefully Jayco will pull their finger out and have all new models ready for Rosehill Show nxt month.

It needs a side splash back at end of the stove.
why put the TV outlet above the bed, at the pillow end?

 

[Moto Moto]

Yeh i went to the Illawarra Show hoping to see one, but no luck.

According to the OB specs it only 200mm longer than my expanda, and exactly the same weight.

Mrs Moto Moto dosen't like the kitchen, too small and no prep area, which is about the only down side i can see.

 

[expanda]

Yeh i went to the Illawarra Show hoping to see one, but no luck.

According to the OB specs it only 200mm longer than my expanda, and exactly the same weight.

Mrs Moto Moto dosen't like the kitchen, too small and no prep area, which is about the only down side i can see.

Get the disco dual axle you won't be dissapointed...

 

[Bushman]

Get the disco dual axle you won't be dissapointed...

Are you sure your not on commisson from Jayco

 

[expanda]

Are you sure your not on commisson from Jayco

I am a dentist and can not show you my face !...

 

[Moto Moto]

I am still considering this model, so thought i would bump this thread.

I am yet to see one in the flesh, has anyone out there been in one? Thoughts?

 

[Bushman]

I am still considering this model, so thought i would bump this thread.

I am yet to see one in the flesh, has anyone out there been in one? Thoughts?

I'm think your fellow Victorian BT driver as been in one, I've only seen triple bunk model didn't think much of it, I'm paying Rob in Canberrra a visit on Monday I'll have a snoop around

 

[CJ1177]

Hey Moto Moto we had a good look at one at Newcastle when they first became available the week after the Newcastle caravan show (smoke was still clearing from the fire in the show room)

We were deciding between one of those or the 14.44-4 & on paper it was fantastic just what we were looking for, BUT as Mrs Moto Moto said the kitchen area was to small, with no prep area.

The deal breaker for us was actually the width of the bed is quite narrow, apparently its a double bed but we are certain it's narrower then that, as a comparison the bed is considerably narrower but longer than the expanda bed, plus to make it fell even smaller the front wall slopes over the side of the bed.

The dining area is acceptable but smaller then the 14.44-4

 

[BaxnRach]

Only problem I see with this layout is the lack of storage,
I've just bought the Discovery 17.55.5, mainly because of the huge amount available,
food for thought.

 

[Moto Moto]

Thanks for the feedback.

I think i need to see one in the flesh, to put the idea to rest.

Say hi to Rob for me Bushy.

 

[hamish22]

Checked an Outback model (less ensuite) at Jayco Newcastle.
Good looking van but the Double bed seemed a tad small and as stated no bench space.

One I looked at is exactly the same as the older Family Jayco Freedom layout!

Did seem cosy though and the thought of just pulling the roof down to go home is good!

 

[cruza driver]

OK here we go op2:

We too have been talking about this model for a while after checking one out a few months ago. I like it for its light weight and length plus its got everything we need and like and its got a toilet shower. We currently have a 16.49-3 which we love especially the length an weight which is why this StarCraft got our attention.

The last couple of weeks have included a couple more trips to the dealer to check it out. The size of the front bed was in our mind but it actually wasn't as bad as we 1st remembered, then we checked out the storage which is also enough for our needs as we travel as minimalists . Yes the bench space is virtually non existent but we don't cook much inside either way. There is 3 options for the TV which I was surprised about, no biggy just an observation

The downside for us was the bottom bunk as it was very close to the top bunk. The actual hard walls below the poptop are lower than the Expanda, so travel height is low but this made the bunk heights limited imo. The plus side though is that you can lookout through the poptop windows

This assessment is a bit long winded I know but, the main clincher for us on not taking the next step is the bottom bunk has a fixed window. This is because the HWS is below the bottom bunk so it is vented here. For us the bottom bunk could/would get very hot in summer. Maybe the HWS could be moved but it could create the same problem elsewhere and be to far from the shower.

Plus we love our model Expanda and it suits us perfectly and is set up how we need it plus for a van you open the bed ends it is nice and cool in summer which is good for our free camping (no A/C). Winter camping has no complaints either :smow: We don't want a tandem so other options are out and this fits in garage too. Nothing wrong with looking though :thumb:

And yes you all like pics so here you go so enough from me :lalala:

We even got hold of some plans, note the bottom bunk fixed window.


The inside


The other end


And the price list ex Vic

 

[hamish22]

Cruza

We also looked deeply into this model with shower, but to have the dinette removed and replaced with a bench longe for more floor space.

Shopped around for price on shower model OB, with full vinyl annexe, aerial, solar, battery pack, external shower, external tv aerial + lounge modification and was given a best price of 40,000.

Was sort of keen until we found Jayco Sports Expanda, but as Cruza said that bottom bunk had me struggling to get out without causing mayhem and possibly breaking something down the track. Didn't know and wasn't informed that the bottom bunk window was fixed either which would have had me pretty unhappy as that bottom bunk really needs air.

This van would be ideal in a 17' to 18' with bigger bunks and a little more bench.

 

[cruza driver]

I really like your Expanda sport hamish22 it's a great model imo.

I don't think I would totally rule out this model yet but we're sticking with what we have, plus lots of happy holidays in this current Expanda :thumb:

 

[expanda]

What about a disco?

No love for the disco....

Or is it because of dual axle + weight?

That said the disco is very light overall even being a dual axle.