14' Series Leaving handbrake on

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Some advise on what I should do if anything after just driving for 150km with the handbrake left engaged? Obviously first thing is not do it again. Should I check the adjustment? Strange that I did not notice it when towing but I could smell it when stopped.
 

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I think they will need drums off & a though inspection for piece of mind.
They could have heated up, unknowingly smoked & worn some shoe clearance & cooled down in that distance. But insulation / plastic bits & wiring insulation might be all melted inside.
Good luck
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Some advise on what I should do if anything after just driving for 150km with the handbrake left engaged? Obviously first thing is not do it again. Should I check the adjustment? Strange that I did not notice it when towing but I could smell it when stopped.
Take the van too a good mechanic and get them to inspect the van.
That's the first recommendation but if your mechanically minded check what others have Said and here is a few other things you might want to look at; drums, shoes, magnets, yes if it was me and the drums are blue I would replace the drums, shoes, and the bearings because you don't want to be in the middle of no were when they fail.

Good luck!

Skip
 
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and at first I thought you were talking about the good missus..............

as above - get it checked out asap......... well, before you want to use it again anyway
maybe nothing wrong
but peace of mind is wanted
 
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As others have said pull the hub off , do the bearings and check the shoes and drum but since you dragged it 150kms and didn't notice it and it didn't ignite I woud say poor original adjustment or not fully on may have saved you some big dollars as by rights you should have cooked the bearings or at least had the grease running like oil from them before they siezed then woof, flames galore.
I recently did the same thing but knew about it after 500yds.
 
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Some advise on what I should do if anything after just driving for 150km with the handbrake left engaged? Obviously first thing is not do it again. Should I check the adjustment? Strange that I did not notice it when towing but I could smell it when stopped.

handbrake on the car -
or
hand brake on the Van

if its Car (4WD)- just re-adjust, most handbrakes are on the rear of the Transfer case / gearbox
if its rear wheel brakes - car / 4wd / etc
they are usually disk brakes with minor adjustment for the hand brake on them

if its Van - yeppers, get them checked asap
 

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handbrake on the car -
or
hand brake on the Van

if its Car (4WD)- just re-adjust, most handbrakes are on the rear of the Transfer case / gearbox
if its rear wheel brakes - car / 4wd / etc
they are usually disk brakes with minor adjustment for the hand brake on them

if its Van - yeppers, get them checked asap

speaking from experiance as well....................

had to replace the tiny shoes on the back of the transfercase because I did similar (Pth to Cataby - 230kms)
cause the handbrake would not brake at all after that...............
strange really............
 
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speaking from experiance as well....................

had to replace the tiny shoes on the back of the transfercase because I did similar (Pth to Cataby - 230kms)
cause the handbrake would not brake at all after that...............
strange really............
Yep ... Had the same problem driving across the beach from Lancilin to Cervantes in my old SWB Landrover 1960 modal that didn't know the meaning of power but went every where. Driveing along the beach and though I had a problem with the clutch but instead I burnt out the hand brake. You learn from your mistakes but I was only 17 at the time.
 
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Thanks all. I will do a thorough inspection and go from there. I don't believe the original handbrake adjustment was very good anyway as I could push the van to the side with the jockey wheel and the handbrake on prior to doing this. Also only one side smelt when I stopped and noticed the handbrake was on on the van and the smell was not that strong. As I was on my way home from a trip, I let it sit for a while to cool, even though I could not really feel any heat coming off and then checked the van brakes were working and continued home without a problem. In any case there will be some work to do to at least make the handbrake work.
Cheers.
 

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Once upon a time when I was dressed in a blue uniform, except this time I was in Jungle Green, I was demonstrating FWD technique to new drivers, SGT says bog Cruiser in sand to show how to snatch out, I jump in Cruiser, go to 2W bog, and promptly ripped the back off the transfer case, seems a bit of tree had bent the hand brake rod so Hbrake was still on, in reverse it locked. Kids got a great demo of dead stick beach recovery.
Lesson being if your handbrake works on drive shaft, use a rock instead.
 
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Wow, I would say your brakes and drum will be fine, you would burn your hand and smell it a mile away otherwise. There is a technique to getting the correct adjustment, not hard though. But you need to adjust the shoes first for your electric brake operation then adjust the hand brake cable afterwards, the cable may need to be redone at the drum as well if you run out of handle adjustment.
You need axle stands don't use the van jack they are killers.
 
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I think I will just take to a brake mechanic and get it all adjusted correctly as I could see myself taking forever and the wife telling me I should have got an expert to do it. Less pain in the end.

I assume a standard car brake mechanic would know what he is doing instead of trying to book it into a caravan mechanic.
 
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Once upon a time when I was dressed in a blue uniform, except this time I was in Jungle Green, I was demonstrating FWD technique to new drivers, SGT says bog Cruiser in sand to show how to snatch out, I jump in Cruiser, go to 2W bog, and promptly ripped the back off the transfer case, seems a bit of tree had bent the hand brake rod so Hbrake was still on, in reverse it locked. Kids got a great demo of dead stick beach recovery.
Lesson being if your handbrake works on drive shaft, use a rock instead.
If only you had of filmed it @Drover
 
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I think I will just take to a brake mechanic and get it all adjusted correctly as I could see myself taking forever and the wife telling me I should have got an expert to do it. Less pain in the end.

I assume a standard car brake mechanic would know what he is doing instead of trying to book it into a caravan mechanic.
Try someone that specifically specialises in trailers/caravans would be your best bet. Some automotive mechanic don't often work on electric brakes and therefore a specialist would be your best option.