Electrical Electric Brakes

TheEddies

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Currently in Tibooburra NSW and have discovered the wire connector to the drivers side brake has been broken, wires all hanging loose. The wires that come out of the brake housing are both white but the wires running to the connector one is white and one blue, does it matter which ones I connect and if there is a preffered connection how do I check it out.

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mikerezny

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Currently in Tibooburra NSW and have discovered the wire connector to the drivers side brake has been broken, wires all hanging loose. The wires that come out of the brake housing are both white but the wires running to the connector one is white and one blue, does it matter which ones I connect and if there is a preffered connection how do I check it out.

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Hi @TheEddies,
if both wires coming out of the brake housing are the same colour, then I think it is quite safe to assume it doesn't matter which way you connect them back up. They just energise an electromagnet.

BUT, if you can look carefully at where and how the wires are broken, you might be able to match them up the way they were.

cheers
Mike
 
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TheEddies

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Thanks Mike. Plastic housing of connector has been destroyed but the pin connectors are still in good shape but they both look the same. I have connected as best fit and then pushed the brake button on the controller and nothing went bang so must be OK. When we move on tomorrow I will re test.
 
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Drover

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Just twist them together and cover with tape, all will be good, on the inside is a magnet and polarity doesn't matter....I have sheilded my cables and run them so they are close to the axle and kept out of the way of harm as much as possible, why this isn't done when built is beyond me.
 
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Linton

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Hi all. Returned from a first real off-road test on our 18.58-2 OB, a holiday up the west coast which concluded with 1300K across the Gasgoyne-Murchison-Goldfields on dirt back roads to get home. Most of the roads I would class as good - graded pastoral roads and able to sit on 90kph without risk. About 10% of it was rough, and had to slow right down.
At home, after spending a couple weeks dealing with dust issues and screws coming out from the rattling etc etc, have checked under, and found that 3 out of the 4 wheels had brake leads hanging loose from them. The plugs had been torn out. Agreed with Glen that there was not enough slack, and neither has there been any effort to position the leads to minimise hits from stones, nor to protect them they do get hit (unless flimsy plastic sleeve is called protection).
I'm a bit concerned that this 'Outback' version is vulnerable in this way. It is unsafe, and I'm considering opening discussions with Jayco on their obligations under warranty to rectify it. Has anyone else had this happen? I have spoken to two other OB owners in Kalgoorlie, who have had the same thing happen with brakes (but not during warranty). Is that a discussion I can make any progress on with Jayco or am I going to get limited liability response from them because they cant be liable for where its been or how it has been driven.
Also, on the Jtech suspension, there is a forward facing grease nipple on each one. The plastic covers to these were either gone or damaged on all 4, and I'm fearful that a nipple might get knocked off down the track. Is there a way of protecting them more robustly? Have considered taking them out and replacing with blank stubs, and putting them back each time the suspension is greased, but would like an easier solution if there is one.
Cheers,
Linton
 
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Drover

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It's a common thing across a range of Brands not just Jayco, as for taking it up with them, well it depends on how much time you have, something could get done but I bet you would get the " Bring it in for a service reply................" .
I've sleeved my cables with split corrugated conduit and they are well protected, a couple of dollars and 20 mins maybe, way better than arguing with drop kicks...
With your grease nipples as you mentioned remove and fit blanks or maybe just cover them with those plastic caps that you fit over fuel lines etc, they are a soft moulded sleeve sort of thing, it would protect from dirt and small rock hits otherwise a stone shield fitted in front .
On one of my vehicles I fitted a blank, which was just like a bolt head as I had broken 2 nipples before and it was easier to fit a nipple when servicing than trying to extract a broken one........but they were out in the open to collect things when on bush tracks and creeks.
 

Linton

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Thanks Drover. My situation on repairs under warranty is complicated by not having a Jayco service agent in Kalgoorlie, the nearest being 4 hrs away at Esperance or 7 hrs to the dealer in Perth. I'm not prepared to drive that far without effective brakes, so my conversation with them will be interesting. I've decided to dialogue with them in the interests of reporting a safety issue, which they need to be formally made aware of, even if it gets me nowhere. I'm not sure at this stage what their safety reporting procedures look like, but will start with my dealer in Perth. That won't stop me from doing a proper job of reparation in the meantime though, especially as I want to take it out again for a weekend in 4 weeks time.
Guess I was wishful thinking on the grease nipples. Looks like I'll be stocking blanks to change them out between grease-ups.
 
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