Just returned from a trip down to gracetown. It's only 300km or so. Although I plan to replace the xtrail at some point, it towed the 16.49 at an average of 9.9l per hundred. I did return with an empty water tank and it towed really easily. I wouldn't want to try to get over the blue mountains or anything, we are pretty flat here. I may not be in such a hurry to replace it now
Diesel xtrail
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my argument has always been............ (as I was taught may may moons ago....)
the tower needs to be heavier than the towee
1/3rd heavier would be my suggestion, that way, under ANY situation, the towee cannot push the tower around......
I cannot argue about the economy your getting, nore the comfort you have as a daily driver
but................
the tower needs to be heavier than the towee
1/3rd heavier would be my suggestion, that way, under ANY situation, the towee cannot push the tower around......
I cannot argue about the economy your getting, nore the comfort you have as a daily driver
but................
I think to keep getting those sorts of figures, you may need to look at the Bitzamissing Spanish Cat
(Pajero)
(Pajero)
Wow thanks for the heads up bigcol, I was assuming I needed a prado. Without any research I always assumed the Pajero was only for those that couldn't afford a prado. Don't take affence anybody, I see I was mistaken. Guess I nearly fell into the sheep mentality. Both are good cars.
Spanish Cat or Playdoh............
decisions decisions
dont let @dagree know I said it
but
apart from the Toyota Tax - the Playdoh is a good tow vehicle (personally - I dont like the latest model - but you get that)
I prefer the 120 series over the 150 (120 has 2x 90l tanks and weighs less than the 150, and does not feel as "mushy" going around corners)
I have been led to believe the Spanish Cat is good as well (my Father had a 2014 one - very good towing his 20' Coromal)
I just dont like the dash gauges - or that Bitsaremissing killed the Valiant
but thats my point of view...........
decisions decisions
dont let @dagree know I said it
but
apart from the Toyota Tax - the Playdoh is a good tow vehicle (personally - I dont like the latest model - but you get that)
I prefer the 120 series over the 150 (120 has 2x 90l tanks and weighs less than the 150, and does not feel as "mushy" going around corners)
I have been led to believe the Spanish Cat is good as well (my Father had a 2014 one - very good towing his 20' Coromal)
I just dont like the dash gauges - or that Bitsaremissing killed the Valiant
but thats my point of view...........
I have owned two Prados, 120 series and 150 series. Totally agree that 120 was better in every way. I was very disappointed in 150 series. I have also owned a Pajero and found it better in just about every way than Prado ( except for noisy engine). I collect my new Pajero Sport this week... hopefully it lives up to the reviews. Built in Thailand, so not Spanish! $43000 for Pajero sport vs $63000 for Prado ; you can get a lot of fuel for the difference!
hahahahaha
The Mitsubishi Pajero (/pəˈdʒɛroʊ/; Spanish: [paˈxeɾo]; Japanese パジェロ [pad͡ʑeɾo])[1][2] is a sport utility vehicle manufactured by Mitsubishi. It was named after Leopardus pajeros, the Pampas cat, which is native to the Patagonia plateau region of southern Argentina.[3] But pajero in Spanish is also a common term of abuse, usually translated as "wanker" or "tosser", thus perhaps why alternative names have been used for many markets. It is known as the Mitsubishi Montero (meaning "mountain hunter"[4]) in the Americas (except Brazil and Jamaica), and Spain, while in the United Kingdom it is known as the Mitsubishi Shogun.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mitsubishi_Pajero
whats why I call it Spanish
The Mitsubishi Pajero (/pəˈdʒɛroʊ/; Spanish: [paˈxeɾo]; Japanese パジェロ [pad͡ʑeɾo])[1][2] is a sport utility vehicle manufactured by Mitsubishi. It was named after Leopardus pajeros, the Pampas cat, which is native to the Patagonia plateau region of southern Argentina.[3] But pajero in Spanish is also a common term of abuse, usually translated as "wanker" or "tosser", thus perhaps why alternative names have been used for many markets. It is known as the Mitsubishi Montero (meaning "mountain hunter"[4]) in the Americas (except Brazil and Jamaica), and Spain, while in the United Kingdom it is known as the Mitsubishi Shogun.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mitsubishi_Pajero
whats why I call it Spanish
Wow, knowledge is everything! I must therefore agree that I am getting a Spanish car.
Hopefully, neither IT nor I will turn out to be a “wanker” or “ tosser”; although my wife would say that the jury is still out on that!
Hopefully, neither IT nor I will turn out to be a “wanker” or “ tosser”; although my wife would say that the jury is still out on that!
I am led to believe they are a good towing vehicle
as I said, I was not impressed with the dash gauges - I normally do not need glasses to drive,but, I had to when driving my Fathers, otherwise I could not make out the numbers on the gauges - too small - sunk into the gauge and hard to glance at while driving
meh.....
just my opinion
as I said, I was not impressed with the dash gauges - I normally do not need glasses to drive,but, I had to when driving my Fathers, otherwise I could not make out the numbers on the gauges - too small - sunk into the gauge and hard to glance at while driving
meh.....
just my opinion
No problems at all with your opinion. That is the big plus on this site; all opinions comments and advice are gladly accepted by a great community who all seem to believe that we are each “ individual”.
I think you should be comparing the Pajero Sport price, equipment and size with class equivalent ute based wagon like the Toyota Fortuner, Ford Everest, Isuzi MUX etc.
The Prado would be better compared with the Pajero 3.2Ltr.
many many years ago (when Adam played Full Back for the Jerusalem Allstars) I spend a lot of money on a Car that I thought was what I needed
I spend A LOT of money on this car
A LOT
only, after I had fully rebuilt it, to do the job I wanted
it couldn't do the job I wanted it to do
so if I can make people think about what they are about to spend a large chunk of change on - before they spend it
all good
wasnt a wasted time
did I tell you a spend a LOT of money on this thing..............
(1977 - you could buy a HQ Kingswood 2nd hand for $2K - I spend 10x that much on a 4wd.....buying, rebuilding & modifying.....)
A LOT OF MONEY wasted
ahhh yes @rags BUT
the fourtuna's is not 4wd
the Everresting is still unknown
and the MUX (looks too small for a fat bugga like me..........)
I can fit into the Spanish cat as well as the Playdoh
:biggrin-26:
:biggrin-26:
Rags is right about which cars to compare Pajero Sport to. I have done extensive road tests on each and then decided on Pajero Sport. Of those cars listed, I still think that the PS would be a good upgrade from a Nissan X Trail.
Full size Pajero, Prado and the everlasting Patrol are all really a class above and now poor old RobRoy has got lots of choices........ of course there is always the diesel Terracan if he can find a decent one!
Full size Pajero, Prado and the everlasting Patrol are all really a class above and now poor old RobRoy has got lots of choices........ of course there is always the diesel Terracan if he can find a decent one!
I would suggest that you work out how many days a year you are towing. While I would like a bigger car, finances and every day use are a factor and my current car tow the van without a problem. would like a bigger tank for fuel, but again for ten days a year not really worth it.
Yes safety is an issue and you tow to your conditions. I will not break land speed records but when towing my van don't want to.
Just another thing to consider.
The house dragon finally agrees that we need A bigger car. Without test drives the Pajero spirt is a front runner. Thanks for the tips. I will keep you posted
as @1DayIll suggested, have a look at your actual usage and need, getting permission for a newer car is good, but dont make the mistake a mate of mine did
he has a cruiser.......
tows a Hawk
wants a dual cab so he can take his 4wheeler bike with them camping
soooooooooo
needs to be a dual cab
diesel
auto (he's not getting any younger and he needs a hip replacement)
with a tray, for the 4 wheeler to get on
what did he buy you ask..............................
a dual cab
V6 petrol
manual
with a tub and canopy
he got 1 right out of 4.............
he has a cruiser.......
tows a Hawk
wants a dual cab so he can take his 4wheeler bike with them camping
soooooooooo
needs to be a dual cab
diesel
auto (he's not getting any younger and he needs a hip replacement)
with a tray, for the 4 wheeler to get on
what did he buy you ask..............................
a dual cab
V6 petrol
manual
with a tub and canopy
he got 1 right out of 4.............