Ram 1500 hemi engine problems

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Just an update on 5.7 ,6.2 and 6.4litre hemi engine lifter ,camshaft problems.Day after my son looked at a 2014Grand Cherokee srt8 for me the woman owner rang to say the motor had developed a bad tapping noise. Investigation noted the typical destruction noise of the known cam lifter ,cam failure in these engines .This cam /lifter failure is occurring in motors from 25000ks up ,Rams included ,this GC had only 90000ks .According to performance engine rebuilders here and in US the motor has an inherent design fault ie cam too high in block for oil splash and lIfters at wrong angle to the cam.Short term fix full recon motor around $12000.00 or FCA charging much more for long block replacement.long term fix ,none ! FCA very cagey about admitting major problems with these engines
 

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What gets me is these engines have been around for awhile now, in fact many years, I wonder what they have changed......
 
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These so called new hemi motors came out in the WHs WKs plus Dodge Chargers ,Hellcats ,Rams etc.Different motor to the original hemi motors of 1960s
 

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These so called new hemi motors came out in the WHs WKs plus Dodge Chargers ,Hellcats ,Rams etc.Different motor to the original hemi motors of 1960s
But the WH came out 15 years ago and I've never heard of one having this problem.
 

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Nor had I, until I did more research.As I said main problem cam lifter angles to cam and cam to high in the block.Just maybe earlier oils did a better job .Have an engine rebuilder next camp site here in Townsville he was aware of the ongoing hemi problems.Mind you he’s got 3 month old Ranger 2 litre bi turbo,new turbos, 10 speed auto gear pump all replaced in that time !
 

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Mind you he’s got 3 month old Ranger 2 litre bi turbo,

That wouldn't fill me with confidence or is it just me that thinks thats a dumb power plant for a working vehicle.............

Been doing some research myself and it does seem that all the answers are guesses on the hemi problem though poor lubrication seems a possible and wouldn't surprise me the way they pick an oil which will give them a good star rating than engine longetivity.................. actually thought the 5.7 was older than 2003, time flies and I see upgraded in 07................ some horrendous stuff shown on some sites then complaints of GMs similar, might just stick my head back in the sand......... had a good laugh where one bloke says any Chrysler engine ending with a 7 is junk,lol,lol,lol.

and this certainly turns me off them and RAMs.....https://raybuck.com/dodge-ram-truck-common-issues/ ......... I'll never be able to afford one anyway...but Iike to dream

Really surprised at how often it seems to be.


Dropped a valve into the pot on a GM 6-92 once out around Augathella, nursed it back to Toowoomba, heaps of white smoke and diesel coming out of the stack, couldn't climb the hill to workshop so died 1km from home............... Workshop most impressed as I had brought home another boat anchor, inside of cylinder was a mess and somewhere near Dalby I think the valve ended up jammed back in its slot, 2 stroke diesel, no electronic rubbish takes a lot to kill em...... would stop every so often to make sure I wasn't filling the sump with fuel and making a sump bomb.
 
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I advised the women who owned the GC Srt8 I looked at to have a crack at FCA Aust,simply not fit for the purpose! Gave her as much info as poss and told her to do her homework.I would say from talking to her FCA are going to get told a new motor or legal action.
 

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Spent a couple of hours on various forums re hemi camshaft problems.These motors are having problems in as new Rams ,GCs etc.Gee some of the guys on these US sites get ultra vitriolic ,happy they can not fire AKs through these forums or a few more would be dead.
Looks like anybody who has bought a Ram ,GCSRT8,Charger ,Hellcat etc could have a camshaft problem at any time.
 

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Spent a couple of hours on various forums re hemi camshaft problems.These motors are having problems in as new Rams ,GCs etc.Gee some of the guys on these US sites get ultra vitriolic ,happy they can not fire AKs through these forums or a few more would be dead.
Looks like anybody who has bought a Ram ,GCSRT8,Charger ,Hellcat etc could have a camshaft problem at any time.
Luckily they don't ship those Rams to Australia, ripped the guts out of them for no good reason, shoehorn them back together with doctored up non-genuine parts, and then peddle them off to the local market at inflated prices.
 
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Then again its hit or miss like most brands, some have problems while others have a sweet run be it Jeep, Nissan or Landys, luck of the draw, I dont know but the 5.7 has been running around here in good numbers for over 10 yrs with narry a wimper..........maybe like the VM diesel we get a better version......the yank VM is derated compared to ours to comply with there emission BS...... Buyer beware I suppose...
 

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Lots of hemi motored Rams coming into Aust ,two in the cpark right now .I suppose time will tell re problems.However seen at least 3 late model SRT 8 hemi Grand Cherokes on Gumtree saying they have a new motor or about to get a new camshft and lifters.
 

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There are quite a few organisations that complete annual dependability studies across the global auto industry brands. Most vehicle models of cars will include the odd "Friday before the long weekend" failure, but some brands just consistently produce unreliable $hitboxes, then raise the insult with their substandard accountability. We can all end up with a random dud but In the age of information there's really no excuse or sympathy when people actively choose to be uninformed and then roll a dice that only has a one on all 6 sides .... all the info needed to make an informed decision is freely laid out for those that choose to open a new page on the laptop and hit search before they part with their cash.
 
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Crusty 181 ,you are right,these hemi problems have been known for years in the US and now starting to appear in numbers here.Our consumer laws are pretty good if you have the time and effort and knowledge to take these companies to court.!I took FCA /,Jeep to court 5 years ago ,no solicitor etc,just facts plain and simple.Won my case plus got monetary recompense awarded as well.
 
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I took FCA /,Jeep to court 5 years ago ,no solicitor etc,just facts plain and simple.Won my case plus got monetary recompense awarded as well.

and you still have a Jeep, not one but 2 of them......................................:chuncky::chuncky::chuncky::chuncky::chuncky::chuncky:

Have noticed no mention of the Chrylser Batmobiles with the 5.7 having any dramas or am I not looking in the right spot, why is it happening, you would think they would have worked it out by now, all I have seen is guess work............. oh for the old engines, if it broke you just went and got another and slammed it in the hole over the weekend, no stupid computer reset and recode.................and if you had a Landy or Cruiser you always had a donor engine under the tarp behind the shed for parts, sometimes a diff and gearbox amongst the ferns in the corner of the yard....................... if truly blessed a whole body and chassis down behind the dam....

Sorry just dreaming, now good insurance and a Bic is needed.
 

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Now I find the Italian Stallion under the bonnet of the Jeeperific can have a hernia as well, due to a dumb design................. @BJM is destroying my perfect little world of dreams, but then the Colorado VM Motori engine could have dramas I had heard and the Merc 2.7 before that, the old iron 6 in the ZG even had some problems it was said while the old FJ55 tojo the body fell apart before the engine, the Landy never had a decent power plant until the Isuzu came along before that they were better off as boat anchors, while the G60 had a 4lt tractor motor that would never die even when the oil fell out and all in all I never encountered any real dramas, hopefully it will continue............... My old Honda 350 stopped with a clunk as I parked up, my Dad got the bike shop to come around, picked it up took it away and found the main bearing had collapsed, just as I stopped, so instead of blowing a hole in the case, in did nothing, nobody had ever seen it before, pictures sent to Honda and bike was back in the garage when I got back from sea............ they said I was RC, 45 yrs later I might agree.
 

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why is it happening, you would think they would have worked it out by now, all I have seen is guess work
I think Jeeps recent publicity stunt articulates what's gone wrong. They clearly know, clearly don't give two sh*ts and thought they could get away with with a half-arsed effort, and kick the hand that feeds them with impunity ... that was of course until the sales consistently tanked and seriously bit them in the wallet. Jeep then orchestrated the transparent, self-serving and embarrassing grovel when it came out publically acknowledging its litany of historical sins, whilst naively thinking a weasel word apology and most excellent promise to try harder would be enough to turn the tide and garner the support of the Australian market. Somehow they hope that pathetic display will cleanse them, and all will be forgiven. Best of luck with that gem, I wouldn't be buying any new office furniture or signing any long leases. I think they are just waiting for GM to clear the decks of the SS Middle Finger, and theyll be booking the same ride home.

Hopefully @Drover the statistics are in your favour and you just glide along happily and laugh at the Toyotas you see with the bonnets up ... one of which may have been me a few days ago
 
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Yes still got two Grand Cherokees and son has late model as well.Why I took FCA to court was the 2015 N23 transfer case recall debacle.No low range world wide for many owners for over a year.A worldwide safety recall that was a electronic ballsup for want of a better description.I have never been let down ever on the road due to mechanical failures,touch wood ! As drover says vehicles getting to complex ,by the way have a nice 2 litre Ford Cosworth Sierra motor ,Garret turbo ,500 hp sitting in the garage might be able to sell it to a Ranger owner !,These motors were based on the simple 2 litre Ford Escort motor.!
 
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